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Oct 10 2018

CTLP Episode 85- Making Space for People’s Stories with Shannan Martin


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Show Notes-

This week on the CTL podcast, host MacKenzie Koppa talks with Shannan Martin, author of The Ministry of Ordinary Places: Waking Up to God’s Goodness Around You and Falling Free: Rescued from the Life I Always Wanted.  Shannan is a speaker and writer who found her voice in the country and her story in the city.  She and her jail-chaplain husband, Cory, have four funny children who came to them across oceans and rivers. They live as grateful neighbors in Goshen, Indiana. MacKenzie and Shannan talk about a variety of topics surrounding her new book, including:

  • Shannan’s writing style and how she developed her own writing voice
  • How Shannan became an author
  • The major life changes that shifted Shannan’s whole perspective on life
  • The process Shannan went through to get published
  • How writing her second book was very different from the first book



  • City life as a picture of the kingdom of God
  • Building community and putting the hard work into relationships
  • How developing relationships with her neighbors has changed Shannan
  • Having the willingness to listen to people who are very different from you
  • Giving our children the space to share their feelings and ideas with us
  • Holding our faith when suffering hangs on
  • What Shannan’s daily routine looks like currently

Current Lovelies-

Shannan: cooking, baking and spending time in the kitchen to make good meals for her family

MacKenzie: taking a TV fast and reading instead when she has a break from work

Resources Mentioned-


The Ministry of Ordinary Places

Falling Free


Justice in America


Out of the Ordinary



Find Shannan-

You can find Shannan on her website, You can also follow Shannan on the following social media: FacebookInstagram, Twitter, and Pinterest.

Find MacKenzie-

You can find MacKenzie Koppa on Instagram, Facebook, and the CTL Facebook Group, of course!

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