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Feb 5 2020

CTLP Episode 153 – Between Grit and Grace with Sasha Shillcutt, M. D.

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Show Notes-

On the Cultivating the Lovely podcast this week, MacKenzie Koppa talks with Sasha K. Shillcutt, M. D. about her new book Between Grit and Grace: The Art of Being Feminine and Formidable. Sasha is a cardiac anesthesiologist, a wife, a mother of 4 and founder of Brave Enough, a community for female professionals. This conversation is for ALL women, not just those who work in or out of the home, so regardless of your season of life, we hope you will get something out of this episode!

  • Why Sasha started Brave Enough and her goals for helping women be their true selves
  • MacKenzie’s perspective as a work at home and stay at home mom
  • Why “leadership backlash” happens when women speak up and assert themselves
  • Sasha pushes back on the idea that women are hardest on each other
  • Our struggles as women in different arenas are actually remarkably similar
  • Recognizing our deep need for friendship no matter what season we are in
  • God has made us unique, so we don’t need to fall into the comparison trap

When you become brave enough to step into your own identity, the women around you oftentimes start to compare.

Sasha K. Shillcutt, M. D.
  • How the Brave Enough community grew out of Sasha’s own need to recover her femininity and find a tribe
  • Learning to be both bold and gracious
  • How Sasha made time to write a book while being a doctor and a wife and mother
  • The importance of knowing yourself and your uniqueness
  • Sasha’s advice for unplugging and being in solitude
  • Cautions against having a martyr mentality
  • Being a good model for your kids of taking care of yourself
  • A typical day in Sasha’s life

Current Lovelies-

Sasha: enjoying using her brand new massage chair for some relaxation

MacKenzie: taking her kids and some friends bowling at the start of the weekend

Resources Mentioned-


Between Grit and Grace


Alli Worthington

Jen Hatmaker

How I Built This


Legally Blonde

Find Sasha-

You can find Dr. Shillcutt on her website and listen to her podcast, The Brave Enough Show. You can also follow her on Instagram, Pinterest, and Twitter.

Find MacKenzie-

You can find MacKenzie Koppa on InstagramFacebook, and the CTL Facebook Group, of course! Join us on Patreon at

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